SXSW 2010 Q&A: Henry Copeland
Matthew Geraghty March 11, 2010The Breakdown: With SXSW Interactive just days away we were lucky enough to have a last minute chat with Henry Copeland (@HC). Copeland runs social media advertising pioneer Blogads.com which launched in 2002 and represents over 1500 blogs. We asked Henry to give a brief overview of his SXSW panel “Media Armageddon: What Happens When The New York Times Dies.“
S/G: Tell us about what people might be able to expect from your panel “Media Armageddon: What Happens When The New York Times Dies.”
Henry: We’ll have a healthy, maybe even raucous, debate about what New York and the country might look like without the Times. The panelists come from every corner of the boxing ring — Greg Beato (Reason Magazine) sees the market (aka the Internet) filling the holes and then some. Amy Langfield (NewYorkology LLC), coming at this as a blogger/tweeter in NYC (@newyorkology) and former journalist, has first hand tales of bloggers’ frequent inability to confirm facts and nail down rumors. Markos Moulitsas (DailyKos) runs America’s biggest liberal blog and can speak to both the positives and negatives of the Time’s role in the national political news ecosystem. And David Carr (NYTimes), a veteran journalist and media columnist, can talk about what happens to New York’s civic space if there’s a collapse of the big tent pole it all lives under.
S/G: If you are predicting the demise of The New York Times, where does that leave other major national newspapers ?
Henry: I should be clear that The New York Times is a straw man in this argument. We’re not going to debate the economics of newspapers or publishing the Times — we’ll just skip that debate entirely and go straight to “what happens if they’re gone.”
S/G: Does the recent announcement from The New York Times that they will have a new pay-for-content model in 2011 give you any confidence in the paper’s longevity?
Henry: Again, the specifics of the economics of The New York Times aren’t what we’re focusing on per se. But since you asked, I do think that the pay-wall won’t work. First, readers can get most news from many sources, and they’re going to gravitate to the easiest to access and cheapest sources. You saw what happened to Newsday when they put up a paywall. They got just three dozen subscribers over three months.
Finally, most importantly, the articles that are most crucial and unique in the Times, at least from a national perspective, won’t be either cost-effective or influential if hidden behind the paywall.
The Times’ articles about Afghanistan or Pakistan or Liberia are vital both in terms of national security and US readers’ ability to be intelligent world citizens. These articles are increasingly unique to the Times — too few newspapers are investing in them. But these articles are doubly cursed: they’re expensive to produce and they’re unlikely to attract a large paying audience.
S/G: With the ever increasing glut of news content available online how will people in the years ahead be able to find quality journalism?
Henry: Because of the high cost of production, quality journalism — which is to say multi-sourced, thoughtfully reported stories that take more than an hour to produce — are going to be scarcer and scarcer. So, in fact, its not going to be that hard to identify or locate — the good stuff is going to stick out like a sore thumb. But most readers don’t care and in terms of mindshare, the good stuff is going to get crowded out. Take a look at the little “top posts” box in the right column of the Huffington Post. Many folks think of HuffPo as a paragon of serious new media. On any given day, half HuffPo’s top stories are about semi-nude celebrities.
S/G: What are you looking forward to seeing at SXSW 2010 ?
Henry: Wow, it’s a long list. I look forward to catching up with lots of old friends and also meeting new people I’ve become fans of on Twitter.
To keep everyone straight, I’ve actually built a map of all the people at SXSW I want to catch up with:
http://twiangulate.com/group_map/hc/SXSW_catchup_list/
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